jhkim ([info]jhkim) wrote,
@ 2007-12-06 22:04:00
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Thoughts on Jo Walton's "Ha'Penny"
So I just finished reading Jo Walton's Ha'Penny -- the sequel to her alternate-history murder mystery Farthing. Both are very well-written books, and I love the characters. However, I was upset at the implied portrayal of fascism and how it was used. I ended up staying up late last night finishing Ha'Penny, but then couldn't sleep afterwards.

The background of the books is that England makes peace with Germany in early 1941 after the fall of France. Subsequently, England sees a rise in anti-Semitism and repressive government. The books ask important questions about the rise of power, but I think they also misrepresent in many ways.

Killing Hitler?

Alternate histories about WWII abound, and I think that they are still relevant for the modern day. One of the most popular alternate history ideas is killing Hitler prior to or during the war, and what that would do to the Nazi party. (A variant of this appears in Ha'Penny.) This has a lot of relevance to people in our dealings with Iraq and other repressive countries. Our key mistake in Iraq came from the idea (promoted by G.W. Bush and others) that if we just got rid of Saddam Hussein, then Iraq would get better. This isn't unique to Bush, though. Clinton similarly fumbled in his attempts to snatch up clan leaders in Mogadishu in 1993.

Leaders can be important, but they aren't the movement. One of the problems I had with Walton's books was that England was vastly different politically and socially from pre-war Germany and Italy. It had a fairly long history as a unified nation and an established government. Nazism and Fascism were rooted in their countries' culture. The general agreement among historians I know is that killing Hitler during the war would have been a boon to Nazi Germany, letting the military commanders do their jobs better under a less influential leader. Killing him early on before the Nazis rise to power might have changed things, but its not clear that it would be any improvement overall.

As far as I know, assassination is almost always a misperception that killing the leader will eliminate the movement. I'm hard-pressed to think of an example when political assassination worked to achieve its broader goals. I am inclined to think that public resistance is better. This includes passive resistance, but also armed resistance to violence. Still, even violent protest is different than assassination.

Have there been assassinations that worked to improve things?


What particularly annoyed me about Ha'Penny was that the choice outlined was between the assassination plot and actively helping the Farthing regime. That is, there were arguments against assassination -- namely that someone else would take over the party, the bombing would justify more draconian laws to suppress terrorism. I don't think it was mentioned, but in addition, it would completely discredit the political opposition that Lord Scott was party to the assassination attempt. However, since no one else was doing anything to resist the regime, those came across as weak excuses.

For example, even though Carmichael considered leaving the country, he never even considered releasing the story of Thirkie's murder, which would discredit him and benefit the falsely-accused David Kahn. There were many other options as well. The book strongly implied that working in the system as Carmichael seemed to inherently meant selling out, which I think is unfair to the heroism of figures like Oskar Schindler.

Incidentally, it seems to me that there are parallels drawn between Carmichael and Ernst Röhm, who was the founder of the SA (stormtroopers). Röhm was a homosexual man of socialist politics who supported the Nazis until he was killed in a move to suppress the SA's power.



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[info]judith_s
2007-12-07 07:26 am UTC (link)
Depends on your interpretation of "improved." The position of Egypt certainly changed after Sadat's assassination. Israeli politics certainly turned very significantly after Rabin's assassination.

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[info]jhkim
2007-12-07 09:30 am UTC (link)
I didn't mean to say that nothing would change. My thought was that it doesn't really do any good for the motive of the assassin, and in particular that it seems to contribute to more violence and disorder.

Sadat was killed by Islamic extremists, right? Would they call the subsequent changes a victory for them, do you think? Relations with the West did worsen, which I guess would have been part of their aim -- but it is still a secular government, just a more repressive one.

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[info]evilmagnus
2007-12-07 07:47 am UTC (link)
Depends when in the war hitler would've been killed, and who did the killing.

Remember, the entire motive behind the Von Stauffenberg plot was for the Wehrmacht to seize control of the state and sue for peace with the Allies - the idea being that they knew, in the winter of '43 and spring of '44 (when the plot was being laid out) that Germany would lose. They just didn't want to lose to the Soviets.

It's true that the little corporal made tactical decisions that made things worse for Germany, (the various lines in the sand, the instruction not to move the Panzer divisions into Normandy without his express permission) but I think it's generally agreed in military history circles that they only hastened the inevitable by a little bit.

I generally get annoyed with what-if historical fiction of periods I know about. But I just may be a nit-picking asshole. ;)

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[info]wild_irises
2007-12-07 03:50 pm UTC (link)
It is not clear to me that Walton thinks that killing Hitler would make things better. It is clear to me that some of her characters think that.

You raise interesting questions.

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[info]luckymarty
2007-12-07 06:02 pm UTC (link)
Personally I find Nazi-victory alternates tiresome these days, so while I've heard some good things about Farthing, I have no particular desire to read it. I also suspect that it's one of those books that believes England and America were very close to going fascist in the 1930s (or, in the even more annoying version, are close to going fascist now), which tends to break my suspension of disbelief.

That said, someone who disagrees with me about fascism and Anglo-American culture might argue that the assassination of Huey Long saved us from a fascist dictatorship. Of course, that was before he'd actually attained power (national power, anyway). The closest thing I can think of to a successful political assassination is King Henry IV of France, and it's not particularly close.

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[info]luckymarty
2007-12-08 08:28 pm UTC (link)
Oh, possibly also the murder of Pim Fortuyn: his movement did very well in the immediate aftermath of the assassination, but has since fallen apart completely.

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[info]zdashamber
2007-12-07 06:10 pm UTC (link)
I was sad about Ha'Penny because I found pretty much all the characters loathesome. Oh, boo, hoo, Carmichael, your life is so hard, such a pity you "lost" that Jewish housewife who probably got sent to the continent and exterminated... If you spoke, you'd lose your job and you and your guy would maybe starve; if you don't speak, tens of thousands of people will die. How nice for you that you've got a powerful job to pay you off for not making your one move that might actually weaken the regime. Have a great time missing the opportunity to speak before gays are slated for the gas chambers, too.

Viola, you're more ignorant than Carmichael, but it's that "don't wanna know, assume all these people are lying" smarm. How nice that you've found yourself a happy fascistic personal relationship.

I dunno; maybe the whole book was about people's selfish stupidity bringing them low, and the lack of questioning on anyone's part (whether of the use of assassination, or the advisability of sleeping with someone who chokes you, or any number of other aspects) was just showing the mindset of a people doomed to dictatorship.

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