jhkim ([info]jhkim) wrote,
@ 2008-04-16 23:57:00
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Evolutionary Psychology
So I ger very annoyed by evolutionary psychology. I see it pretty regularly, sometimes in jest thankfully, but more often than not completely serious. As far as I have seen, the field is completely unscientific, and primarily exists to spout conservative politics. Some recent examples would be in Mighty Ponygirl's "Science explains why men like games more than women" or Jonathan Tweet's "gender and gaming".

Just to be clear: there is no psychological data on the ancestors of humanity. So instead, evolutionary psychologists make up evolutionary explanations for observed psychological trends in modern humans. Essentially, this means picking trends that they like, and then spinning them as genetically essential rather than environmental or cultural. For that matter, nearly all of the studies cited aren't even cross-cultural. In practice, it is vanishingly rare for a psychological study to be done in different countries at all, let alone in significantly different cultures.

What is particularly notable is that despite massive and obvious cultural differences between men and women -- such as clothing, make-up, and body language -- any subtle difference that can only be seen through extensive statistics is spun to be purely genetic. So if, say, female college students show a statistical difference in how they talk or how they write from male counterparts, it is taken to be a revelation calling for a purely genetic explanation.

The "Hunting Instinct"

As one example of evolutionary logic, I regularly hear about how "hunting instincts" differentiate men from women. For example, Jonathan Tweet's recent blog post suggested that men were "evolved to enjoy hunting and warfare". Similarly, this mega-thread on theRPGsite featured someone claiming that gender differences were explained by men being "bred for hunting and lifting".

In general, modern humans do not seem well adapted to hunting. Up through Homo Habilis, there is no evidence that we hunted at all. Homo Habilis was prey to larger predators, and they had tools for cutting meat but not for stabbing or clubbing prey. There are few indications of physical adaptations for hunting after Homo Habilis. So it is questionable to me how much mental adaptation for hunting we have -- i.e. how deeply ingrained our "hunting instincts" are.

Further, if hunting were a primary point of the male/female split, we might expect to see sexual dimorphism increase after we started hunting. However, actually the opposite happens. The sexes became more similar in size after we begin hunting (around the time of Homo Erectus, approximately 1.8 million years ago).

So while some hunting instincts are within possibility, I think the tendency to assume them is overblown.

The Moving Bar

Anti-feminists throughout the past decades have constantly pointing to whatever the current conditions are as a genetically-determined reality. For example, the lack of women authors and doctors was often cited as evidence that women were genetically unfit for those professions. These days, that is rarely held.

Now, of course, there are real genetic differences between men and women. Some are obvious, and some are less so. However, no one actually grows up under scientifically controlled conditions, and the population differences are subject to a host of environmental and/or cultural influences.

I certainly believe that there are a host of genetic differences between men and women, and I believe in evolution. However, I don't think that any specific difference between modern men and women is "proven" to be purely genetic by supplying an unproveable evolutionary explanation.

P.S. For some more evolutionary psychology annoyances, here are some articles that have galled me over time:


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[info]heron61
2008-04-17 07:49 am UTC (link)
As far as I have seen, the field is completely unscientific, and primarily exists to spout conservative politics.

I completely agree. Here's an excellent analysis of exactly this point - from late 19th century social darwinism, to 70s sociobiology, to 90s+ evo psych, the attitudes are the same, and in all cases, ideology is far more important than anything resembling actual science.

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[info]wild_irises
2008-04-17 08:10 am UTC (link)
Post about evpsych and you get links, apparently. This one is funny!

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Nice post!
[info]norcalcazadora
2008-04-17 12:54 pm UTC (link)

Nice post! You might be interested in a book on this very subject by Mary Zeiss Strange, called "Woman the Hunter."

Regarding this statement: "So it is questionable to me how much mental adaptation for hunting we have -- i.e. how deeply ingrained our "hunting instincts" are." ... have you ever tried hunting? You'd be surprised what it awakens in you.

I'm not an expert in paleoanthropology or psychology, but I have to think 100,000 years of hunting is worth something in the instincts department.

-Holly

<a href="http://www.norcalcazadora.com>NorCal Cazadora - Becoming a Huntress</a>

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2008-04-27 04:53 pm UTC (link)
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Response from an evolutionary psychologist
(Anonymous)
2008-04-29 03:48 am UTC (link)
I actually followed over here from your post in WotC on J. Tweet (I'm Avalongod over there). I think this is a great subject. I'm a clinical psychologist who considers himself an evolutionary psychologist. I think that there are several issues at play:

1.) Evolutionary psychology is oftentimes *bastardized* by people who use it when convenient to disparage people they don't like (i.e. "women shouldn't get into politics because they're not evolved for it" or whatnot).

2.) Evolutionary psychology is also oftentimes *bastardized* through "straw man" arguments by people who don't like it.

3.) The social sciences have been *stuck* (I can't think of a better word so pardon) for the last 50 years in a socialization model, which has become somewhat dogmatic. Like all paradigms it is hostile to opposing views, in this case evolutionary theory.

Evolutionary psychology indeed is based on solid empirical testing through multiple means. Hypotheses are formulated based on the fossil record, and tested against modern humans. The reverse is true as well, hypotheses can be formulated based on the behavior of modern humans and back tested against the fossil record. By and large results have supported evolutionary theory as it applies to humans. Also the field of behavioral genetics (itself admittedly controversial) generally supports an evolutionary view of human nature...genetics, not culture, determines the lion's share of the variance in our behavior, with other biological factors such as head injury, disease, etc. making up much of the rest. Even culture itself may be evolved...with cultural differences largely akin to separate breeding populations (historically speaking...now we can take a jet and mate with whoever we want)...much akin to the Galapagos finches.

I would *gently and cordially* suggest that even some of your comments fall under my heading #2..."straw man" arguments.

That aside, I'd appreciate an opportunity to "get into the head" of someone opposed to evolutionary psychology. If you'd care to debate further, please E-mail me at CFerguson@tamiu.edu.

Best regards,
Chris Ferguson
Texas A&M International University

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well done
(Anonymous)
2008-05-08 06:57 pm UTC (link)
nice work, brother

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