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Evolutionary Psychology
So I ger very annoyed by evolutionary psychology. I see it pretty regularly, sometimes in jest thankfully, but more often than not completely serious. As far as I have seen, the field is completely unscientific, and primarily exists to spout conservative politics. Some recent examples would be in Mighty Ponygirl's "Science explains why men like games more than women" or Jonathan Tweet's "gender and gaming".

Just to be clear: there is no psychological data on the ancestors of humanity. So instead, evolutionary psychologists make up evolutionary explanations for observed psychological trends in modern humans. Essentially, this means picking trends that they like, and then spinning them as genetically essential rather than environmental or cultural. For that matter, nearly all of the studies cited aren't even cross-cultural. In practice, it is vanishingly rare for a psychological study to be done in different countries at all, let alone in significantly different cultures.

What is particularly notable is that despite massive and obvious cultural differences between men and women -- such as clothing, make-up, and body language -- any subtle difference that can only be seen through extensive statistics is spun to be purely genetic. So if, say, female college students show a statistical difference in how they talk or how they write from male counterparts, it is taken to be a revelation calling for a purely genetic explanation.

The "Hunting Instinct"

As one example of evolutionary logic, I regularly hear about how "hunting instincts" differentiate men from women. For example, Jonathan Tweet's recent blog post suggested that men were "evolved to enjoy hunting and warfare". Similarly, this mega-thread on theRPGsite featured someone claiming that gender differences were explained by men being "bred for hunting and lifting".

In general, modern humans do not seem well adapted to hunting. Up through Homo Habilis, there is no evidence that we hunted at all. Homo Habilis was prey to larger predators, and they had tools for cutting meat but not for stabbing or clubbing prey. There are few indications of physical adaptations for hunting after Homo Habilis. So it is questionable to me how much mental adaptation for hunting we have -- i.e. how deeply ingrained our "hunting instincts" are.

Further, if hunting were a primary point of the male/female split, we might expect to see sexual dimorphism increase after we started hunting. However, actually the opposite happens. The sexes became more similar in size after we begin hunting (around the time of Homo Erectus, approximately 1.8 million years ago).

So while some hunting instincts are within possibility, I think the tendency to assume them is overblown.

The Moving Bar

Anti-feminists throughout the past decades have constantly pointing to whatever the current conditions are as a genetically-determined reality. For example, the lack of women authors and doctors was often cited as evidence that women were genetically unfit for those professions. These days, that is rarely held.

Now, of course, there are real genetic differences between men and women. Some are obvious, and some are less so. However, no one actually grows up under scientifically controlled conditions, and the population differences are subject to a host of environmental and/or cultural influences.

I certainly believe that there are a host of genetic differences between men and women, and I believe in evolution. However, I don't think that any specific difference between modern men and women is "proven" to be purely genetic by supplying an unproveable evolutionary explanation.

P.S. For some more evolutionary psychology annoyances, here are some articles that have galled me over time:




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[info]heron61
2008-04-17 07:49 am UTC (link)
As far as I have seen, the field is completely unscientific, and primarily exists to spout conservative politics.

I completely agree. Here's an excellent analysis of exactly this point - from late 19th century social darwinism, to 70s sociobiology, to 90s+ evo psych, the attitudes are the same, and in all cases, ideology is far more important than anything resembling actual science.

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[info]wild_irises
2008-04-17 08:10 am UTC (link)
Post about evpsych and you get links, apparently. This one is funny!

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Nice post!
[info]norcalcazadora
2008-04-17 12:54 pm UTC (link)

Nice post! You might be interested in a book on this very subject by Mary Zeiss Strange, called "Woman the Hunter."

Regarding this statement: "So it is questionable to me how much mental adaptation for hunting we have -- i.e. how deeply ingrained our "hunting instincts" are." ... have you ever tried hunting? You'd be surprised what it awakens in you.

I'm not an expert in paleoanthropology or psychology, but I have to think 100,000 years of hunting is worth something in the instincts department.

-Holly

<a href="http://www.norcalcazadora.com>NorCal Cazadora - Becoming a Huntress</a>

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2008-04-27 04:53 pm UTC (link)
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Response from an evolutionary psychologist
(Anonymous)
2008-04-29 03:48 am UTC (link)
I actually followed over here from your post in WotC on J. Tweet (I'm Avalongod over there). I think this is a great subject. I'm a clinical psychologist who considers himself an evolutionary psychologist. I think that there are several issues at play:

1.) Evolutionary psychology is oftentimes *bastardized* by people who use it when convenient to disparage people they don't like (i.e. "women shouldn't get into politics because they're not evolved for it" or whatnot).

2.) Evolutionary psychology is also oftentimes *bastardized* through "straw man" arguments by people who don't like it.

3.) The social sciences have been *stuck* (I can't think of a better word so pardon) for the last 50 years in a socialization model, which has become somewhat dogmatic. Like all paradigms it is hostile to opposing views, in this case evolutionary theory.

Evolutionary psychology indeed is based on solid empirical testing through multiple means. Hypotheses are formulated based on the fossil record, and tested against modern humans. The reverse is true as well, hypotheses can be formulated based on the behavior of modern humans and back tested against the fossil record. By and large results have supported evolutionary theory as it applies to humans. Also the field of behavioral genetics (itself admittedly controversial) generally supports an evolutionary view of human nature...genetics, not culture, determines the lion's share of the variance in our behavior, with other biological factors such as head injury, disease, etc. making up much of the rest. Even culture itself may be evolved...with cultural differences largely akin to separate breeding populations (historically speaking...now we can take a jet and mate with whoever we want)...much akin to the Galapagos finches.

I would *gently and cordially* suggest that even some of your comments fall under my heading #2..."straw man" arguments.

That aside, I'd appreciate an opportunity to "get into the head" of someone opposed to evolutionary psychology. If you'd care to debate further, please E-mail me at CFerguson@tamiu.edu.

Best regards,
Chris Ferguson
Texas A&M International University

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well done
(Anonymous)
2008-05-08 06:57 pm UTC (link)
nice work, brother

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Dead Right!
[info]clehrich
2008-09-25 02:04 pm UTC (link)
I entirely agree.

One example I find instructive has to do with marriage/sexual practices. Some ev/psych folks draw an analogy to the "selfish gene" principle, under which genetic material tends to preserve itself statistically rather than individually. For example, you get what's sometimes called "genetic altruism" in rabbits: a rabbit, upon spotting predators, will endanger itself by remaining still and pounding its foot, thereby warning the others. Because rabbits breed the way they do, this individual's genetic pattern is widely distributed in the group, and as such the selfish gene preserves itself more efficiently by allowing rabbit A to die but saving all the rest.

From this they derive ideas about human marriage practices. Specifically, kinship patterns should distribute genetic material rather than let it focus in small groups. This means that a nasty disease cannot wipe out the genetic material easily. So what we learn is that family structures and the psycho-social attitudes derive from evolutionary pressures.

This is well documented, but...

1. If it is true (and on the whole it is) that dominant kinship patterns do not violate this principle, it is also true that we know of an enormous number of such patterns. So while we have an apparent limit to variation, it tells us nothing about the vast array of social structures that perpetuate kinship patterns.

2. What's more, we have non-trivial examples in which this principle is violated, for example sacred incest, which you find from ancient Egypt to Polynesia. So even if this principle is valid, it appears that culture can trump nature.

Thus this genetic, evolutionary principle, well-established and accepted, on the one hand gives us almost no purchase on the majority of relevant data, and on the other is utterly useless in dealing with an important dimension of that data. We learn that there is a natural limit to the variability of human kinship patterns, but (a) the variability is nevertheless immense, and (b) the limit isn't by any means absolute.

Turning to my own academic discipline, we see a lot of evolutionary-psychological discussion of religion: its functions, its evolutionary origins, etc. But in most of this discourse, the definitions of "religion" are bankrupt. The usual implicit definition has to do with belief in and perhaps action with respect to divinities of some sort. That was Sir James Frazer's definition in The Golden Bough, but since then we've developed the anthropology, sociology, and history of religions as disciplines in their own right. And none of these disciplines accept such a definition. In 1912 Emile Durkheim showed that this simply cannot work: there are too many exceptions, for one thing. Serious academic study of religion has progressed largely because we stepped away from this shallow, basically European Judeo-Christian view of things. But in evolutionary psychology and cognate fields, they still use Frazer's definition.

Why should this be? Because it is a closed discourse. These people don't read scholars in other disciplines. Why should they? They're scientists, you see. The arrogance is colossal. They think that because they have some plausible institutional claim to the title "scientist," something very few people in the academic study of religion would want, this gives them justification to go ahead blindly as though nobody else has ever said anything intelligent on the topic.

What's infuriating is that it seems obvious that cognitive neuroscience, psychology, evolutionary biology, and the like should be useful conversation partners about religion. But to have this conversation, these people must see what they do and do not know. They know a lot about neuroscience, evolution, and biology, but little about religion, which is why so much of their work looks to a professional like ignorant ravings. And while there is willingness among scholars of religion to talk to such scientists, as witness a growing number of PhD programs in this field, most requiring graduate-level training in relevant sciences, there is almost none in the other direction, as witness the ignorance of foundations of anthropology, sociology, and history of religion.

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ev psych
[info]wanton_heat_jet
2009-06-23 04:30 pm UTC (link)
"As far as I have seen, the field is completely unscientific"

I guess this might be where I got the idea that you oppose ev psych. Per our discussion on my blog, it now seems that you agree that evolved instincts, such as for male aggression, have a big influence on social roles (i.e., you affirm the principles of ev psych and reject Gould's "biologic potential" theory).

For readers who wonder who to believe in this whole controversy, may I recommend Encyclopedia Britannica? Why listen to us lay people argue when there's a solid, neutral source of information to which to turn?

The philosophy of nature has a section on sociobiology and ev psych.

"philosophy of nature." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2009. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 23 Jun. 2009 <http://www.britannica.com/ebchecked/topic/406524/philosophy-of-nature>.

And the social behavior, animal, article has an informative section of ev psych, too:

"social behaviour, animal." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2009. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 23 Jun. 2009 <http://www.britannica.com/ebchecked/topic/550897/animal-social-behaviour>.

For those who don't want to read the articles, I'll summarize: ev psych wins.

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Re: ev psych
[info]jhkim
2009-06-23 11:45 pm UTC (link)
While encyclopedias are useful for an introduction to a subject, they are not inherently neutral -- nor is neutrality inherently a good thing. For example, look at claims of neutrality in the mainstream media when covering intelligent design. Britannica, like all encyclopedias, has different authors with different biases writing for it. It has no entry directly on evolutionary psychology, but the entry on "instinct" concludes:

Because evolutionary psychology can be viewed as genetic reductionism that ignores the intricacies of individual development, it is vulnerable to the kinds of criticism that comparable nativist views such as that of Lorenz have been subject to in the past. There is plenty of evidence that genes can influence behaviour. However, the question of how they do so is at issue. In the past this question either was not addressed or was assumed to involve specification of developmental outcome without any contribution from interaction with contextual factors, such as might result from experience. However, this assumption fails to acknowledge the complexity of the developmental process. At all levels—from the gene in its matrix of microcellular structure to the grown organism in its physical and social environments—interaction is the rule, which can be revealed only by developmental study. Evidence of genetic basis, which has been furnished by selective breeding and by functional correlation implying natural selection, is silent about how a behavioral trait is realized in individual ontogeny (the development of an organism from conception to adulthood).

So the author of the philosophy section favors evolutionary psychology, while the author of the instinct section is critical of it.

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Re: ev psych
[info]wanton_heat_jet
2009-06-24 12:10 am UTC (link)
Please reread what you cut and pasted. The author you quote is only critical of ev psych "in the past." Modern ev psych incorporates a dynamic interaction between soft-coding and environment (including learning).

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Re: ev psych
[info]wanton_heat_jet
2009-06-24 12:30 am UTC (link)
Also, the "developmental study" that this article refers to is the very thing that Louann Brizendine documents in "The female brain." She walks you through step by step how hormones alter brain structure and affect mood from fetal development through the life cycle, resulting in (basically) two different sorts of human brains with different, gender-typed predispositions.

So if this article criticizes ev psych, they back Brizendine in its place.

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